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CHAI Announcement of AIDS Drug Price Reductions
May 8, 2007
New York, NY
President Clinton: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for
coming. We have good news to share today in the fight against AIDS. Thanks to
the partnership between UNITAID and our Foundation, and working hand-in-hand
with our governmental partners, we are announcing major price reductions for
more than a dozen AIDS drug formulations. They will be supplied by our partners
Matrix and Cipla to more than 60 other nations.
I’m pleased to be joined on the platform by Ambassador Jean-David Levitte,
who is here on behalf of the French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy,
the chairman of UNITAID. Also with me are the vice chairman of Matrix Lab, Mr.
N. Prasad; and the Ministers of Health of Kenya and Thailand, Charity Ngilu
and Dr. Mongkol Na Songkhla.
Thanks to the work of the ministers and people like them around the world,
there are now two million people on AIDS treatments in developing countries,
a tenfold increase from five years ago. It is a remarkable success, but one
we must build on. When we started this endeavor at our Foundation about five
years ago, we made a promise to people living with HIV: Once you’re on
treatment, we’ll keep the medicines coming and make sure that everyone
else who needs them has access. The standard and quality of care of providing
treatment in developing countries would be no different than what we expect
in places like the United States.
Looking ahead, there are some very stiff challenges to fulfilling this commitment.
The second-line drugs, which a small minority of patients need as they develop
drug resistance to the initial medications, are even more expensive, about 10
times the price of today’s first-line combination. That’s a very
great strain on countries’ health care budgets, and governments fear all
over the world that they will simply not be able to keep patients on treatment.
The drug combination that represents the gold standard of AIDS treatment in
wealthy nations remains almost unknown in developing countries, even though
it’s safer and easier to take, and thus better for patients.
The reason is the price. It’s six times the cost of today’s leading
drug combination in low-income countries. The prices are simply exorbitant in
middle-income countries like Brazil and Thailand. These countries are home to
fully half of the two million people on treatment. I’ve seen this with
my own eyes in visiting these countries, and I don’t see middle-income
patients, but patients without means and in dire need. I see men, women, and
children whose daily struggles are no different from those living with HIV in
the poorest corners of the world.
Our announcement today responds directly to these challenges and sets the foundation
not only for treatment to many more people, but treatment that is more equitable,
more affordable, and more effective.
First, we’re announcing initial price reductions for second-line medicines
that will generate average savings of 25 percent in low-income nations and up
to 50 percent below the price now available in middle-income nations.
This has been made possible by UNITAID, with whom my Foundation is partnering
in a $100 million program that will begin buying these medicines at the new
prices this July. In partnership with our suppliers Matrix and Cipla, we’re
also announcing uniform pricing for all these drugs across countries in my Foundation’s
buying club, which now stretches across 66 nations from Peru to Papua New Guinea.
This is very important to me. No company will ever die because of the high
price premiums for AIDS drugs in middle-income countries, but patients may.
I believe in intellectual property and ensuring that manufacturers earn the
profit margins they need to keep the discovery and supply of AIDS drugs sustainable.
But that need not prevent us from getting essential lifesaving medicines to
those who need them in low- and middle-income countries alike.
Second, less than a year after the launch of an AIDS treatment that is one
pill once a day
-- which is so much easier for people to take -- we’re announcing a price
of less than a dollar a day for developing countries. This represents a 45 percent
savings over the price now available in Africa and up to a 67 percent savings
in many middle-income countries. This drug represents the best chance that science
has to offer, and we’re announcing this price to help national governments
plan for the use of the product in the future.
The good news reflects the work of many partners, and I want to take just a
moment to thank them. I’m grateful for the leadership of Matrix and Cipla.
They have been wonderful to work with these last five years. Cipla has been
a leading supplier of AIDS drugs since we started. Matrix has been the leading
supplier of the active ingredients used in making these drugs. Now they, too,
have been making pills for patients.
I am profoundly grateful to UNITAID, a new initiative funded largely through
an airline levy thought up by President Chirac. We share a common purpose to
get drugs and tests to more people by spending money more effectively, changing
markets that are low volume, high margin to high volume, low margin, certain
payment ones.
I am particularly grateful to our government partners. We can have all of the
money and technical know-how in the world, but it’s their leadership and
the work of governments and NGOs on the ground that make treatment and turning
death to life a reality.
The role of our government partners on today’s agreements was absolutely
critical. When you do the math of pharmaceutical production, volume lowers costs.
These governments, particularly these who are here, made sure that we had the
added demand needed so that the suppliers could lower the prices.
Now, let me introduce the speakers each in turn. We will begin with Ambassador
Levitte and go to Mr. Prasad and then to the ministers. Mr. Ambassador.
Ambassador Levitte: Thank you, Mr. President. It’s a
great honor to be with you today. It is a moving moment, Mr. President, and
it is my honor to read in front of all of you a message coming from Philippe
Douste-Blazy, Minister for Foreign Affairs of France, and also the chairman
of the UNITAID executive board:
“Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends, President Bill Clinton and I are
pleased on behalf of UNITAID and the Clinton Foundation to announce to you today
the latest deep reductions in drug prices for people living with AIDS in developing
countries. We must address the global health emergency. Some 40 million people
are living with HIV/AIDS. This epidemic claims three million lives a year and
over six million people are in urgent need of treatment. Countries of the south
are its main victims. Nearly 90 percent of new infections occur in developing
countries. Two of the deadly diseases, tuberculosis and malaria, are also killing
millions of people each year. Yet, treatments exist to fight these pandemics.
“UNITAID, an international drug purchase facility, was established on
the basis of that fact. Founded for the most part by proceeds from air-ticket
solidarity levies, it is a symbol of a more equitable, socially-minded globalization.
Today over 30 countries of the north and south are taking part in UNITAID. It
was created in September 2006 under the aegis of the United Nations to further
access high quality treatment in the hardest hit and most vulnerable countries.
To do so, it provides medicines on the ground and negotiates price reductions
with all of the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture effective products.
“Drug prices are still far too high. First-line AIDS treatments cost
$150. But more and more patients need what are called second-line antiretrovirals,
or ARVs, recommended by the World Health Organization, and they are up to ten
times more expensive. At this cost, people in countries of the south cannot
afford them. What’s more, second-line ARVs are most often not even sold,
as President Clinton just said, in these countries. This situation, this injustice,
cannot be tolerated.
“That’s why UNITAID launched a program early this year with the
Clinton Foundation to finance second-line ARVs. Some 27 countries have been
benefiting from the program since 2007; 33 of them in Sub-Saharan Africa. Thanks
to the price reductions, the Clinton Foundation and UNITAID have obtained from
pharmaceutical companies a significant amount of treatment covering a substantial
part of needs. Seven categories of second-line ARVs will arrive in beneficiary
countries starting this July. The pharmaceutical companies involved are patented
drug manufacturers such as Abbott, Gilead, GlaxoSmithKline, and Bristol-Myers
Squibb, and, of course, generic drug manufacturers.
“Each manufacturer who offers the best price reductions can be selected
as long as its products meet quality assurance standards. For instance, UNITAID
and the Clinton Foundation are going to buy a heat resistant form of the drug
Kaletra, which is one example of the seven types of second-line ARVs to be provided.
On average, negotiated prices for these formulations are, as President Clinton
just said, 25 percent lower than today’s market prices in low-income countries,
and 50 percent lower in middle-income countries.
“But, we still have a lot of work to do. We plan to carry out more price
negotiations, including on second-line ARVs, to continue to make drugs more
affordable to fight HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria. To achieve this, we
are going to work with the Clinton Foundation and our other partners, including
the Global Fund, UNICEF, WHO, and the Stop TB and Malaria Initiatives. At the
same time, other countries need to take action to increase contribution to UNITAID,
which is expected to raise $300 million in 2007, and more than $400 million
in 2008.
“But let us today remember this date and this important announcement
which in addition to proving that our actions are effective provides us with
strength to continue our fight together.
“Thank you very much, Mr. President.”
Mr. Prasad: Thank you very much, President Clinton, Ambassador
Levitte, other ministers and dignitaries on the dais, and ladies and gentlemen.
It gives me much pleasure to be here once again. I was here way back in 2003
when we announced the first-line treatment. Circumstances have prevented Robert
Coury, our vice chairman and chief executive officer of Mylan, from being here.
I’m here to deliver the message of Mylan. He said we had a good meeting
and sharing of information with the board of Mylan, and I’m here to share
the vision coming from the dedication of our team and the society and the most
important, underrepresented, and undersold population of this world.
It’s truly a pleasure and honor to be among such great and esteemed leaders
who worked together to continue and to demonstrate their support to us, and
great organizations like the ones here today, UNITAID.
Earlier this year, Mylan acquired Matrix Laboratories, an Indian pharmaceutical
company. One of the many reasons which brought our two organizations of different
cultures and geographies together was a shared vision to use our scientific
expertise, our talent in pharmaceuticals, to address unmet needs in the global
health care community, especially the needs in the undersold patient populations
like HIV patients. Both Mylan and Matrix have a long-term history of meeting
the shareholders’ commitment and the stakeholders’ commitment, which
includes society, and today is no exception.
I am proud to stand here today to announce Mylan and Matrix support to the
UNITAID program for supplying the five antiretroviral products. We are also
very proud to be associated with the Clinton Foundation, which has worked with
the company in reducing the cost and improving the efficiencies. I am here to
strongly commit to help to continue to divert the cost and to get the drugs
into the hands of the many patients who need them. It is difficult to imagine
the positive impact we are making to so many lives around the world by our combined
commitment toward this important cause.
We believe this is only the beginning of what we are able to accomplish in
this area. I will look forward to expanding Mylan/Matrix’s role as a global
leader in this area and other areas of need.
On behalf of all employees of Mylan/Matrix, I would like to thank President
Clinton for this wonderful initiative to address the needs of this global health
community.
I remember when I came here in 2003, the pictures of four great leaders were
decorating the room of President Clinton. I still remember the fond memory,
and I’m sure today what we are announcing is a great tribute to the spirit
of those leaders, and many more whom we have not seen. Thank you very much for
this chance.
Dr. Ngilu: Thank you very much, President Clinton, Mr. Mongkol
Na Songkhla, Mr. Prasad, Mr. Levitte.
First, I would like to thank you, Mr. President, for making it possible for
me to be here with you today. Today’s announcement marks an important
step in keeping the cost of HIV and AIDS treatment affordable in countries around
the world. In Kenya, 1.3 million people are living with HIV and AIDS, and nearly
300,000 of these are in immediate need of treatment.
Today, because of the initiative that you started, Mr. President, 130,000 people
are receiving antiretroviral treatment in Kenya. The government of Kenya, in
partnership with the Clinton Foundation, has assured the long-term sustainability
of treatment, offering access to its reduced prices for critical communities
and helping devise creative strategies for addressing HIV and AIDS at the national
level.
Kenya is dedicated to caring for all of these infected with HIV and AIDS regardless
of cost or disease progression. In order to fulfill this promise, Kenya must
work with partners and suppliers to make sure treatment remains affordable.
As treatment increases and especially patients receiving first-line treatment
begin to need second-line treatment, the costs of caring for Kenya’s sick
increases as well. The cost of providing the gold standard first-line treatment
and high-quality second-line treatments included in today’s agreements
would be nearly impossible without interventions of UNITAID, the Clinton Foundation,
and the suppliers here today.
Thanks to your work, when patients look to the government for the drugs they
need to save their lives, we will be able to respond. I thank all of those involved
in today’s agreement for making sure that the best available treatment,
the very drugs you provide to people living with HIV and AIDS in New York, is
also available to people living HIV and AIDS in Kenya.
Making high-quality, desperately needed medicines affordable is an imperative
piece of making treatment sustainable. Together we will be able to help all
of those in need in Kenya and around the world live longer, healthier, and happier
lives.
Before I just say thank you, Mr. President, I want to remind you of your visit
to Kenya and remind you, Mr. President, that when you came to Kenya three years
ago, we had only 2,000 children on treatment. Because of this intervention and
initiative, Mr. President, we now have 12,000 children on treatment. We should
be giving about 8,000 treatment; I do believe after today, we should be able
to reach that.
Mr. President, at the time you visited Kenya, we had only about 35,000 adults
on treatment. Today, Mr. President, we have 130,000 Kenyans on treatment. This
is an achievement that we never thought we would realize. Therefore, I thank
you very much for this initiative and for the support of Kenya. Thank you very
much.
Dr. Mongkol: Thank you, President Clinton, and good morning,
ladies and gentlemen. Like other middle-income countries, Thailand has huge
income disparity and a large number of low-income people. We have five million
people living under poverty and 48 million under the Social Welfare Health Insurance.
Through our commitment to universal health care, the Thai government has increased
the health budget from the mere four percent of the national budgets in the
1980s to more than 10 percent in 2007. This year, the new government has increased
the budget for the universal health care by 15 percent, and for the universal
access to AIDS drugs by more than 30 percent. That commitment has helped us
to provide effective treatment to more than 100,000 people living with AIDS.
AIDS is no longer a death sentence in our country. Tens of thousands of our
people who would otherwise be gone are healthy and caring for their families.
However, the excessively high drug prices have often obstructed us from achieving
universal access. Out of 100,000 patients on treatment, 70 percent do not have
access to safer drugs like Efavirenz. Of around 10,000 patients that require
second-line drugs, less than 15 percent of them have access to it.
If the best available drugs are too expensive, we must choose between putting
more people on treatment and providing the most effective medicine for those
who are already on treatment. The new price announced today will help ensure
that Dr. Ngilu and I and our many other colleagues across the world will no
longer have to make that choice.
Ladies and gentlemen, Thailand has the experience of getting high-quality drugs
at much lower prices through the system of pooling demand and collective bargaining
at the provincial and national level. We have been waiting eagerly for some
organizations to organize and manage a global system. The Clinton Foundation
and UNITAID have made our dream come true.
Through the new prices achieved by President Clinton, UNITAID, and their partners
in industry, we can have three times more of the current access figures. With
more resources, the real universal access is not too far. I am also pleased
that by working with President Clinton and his Foundation to pool our large
purchases of these drugs with those from other countries, we will be able to
help further lower the price of these essential medicines.
Ladies and gentlemen, I come here to reiterate words of the famous inaugural
speech of the late, great U.S. President John F. Kennedy: We are not coming
here to do today to ask what Americans can do for us. We come to commit our
collective effort to bargain for high-quality and lower-priced drugs in order
to free the patients from their catastrophic illness.
Finally, ladies and gentlemen, I would like to express my sincere appreciation
of thanks to President Clinton and all of the leaders who are here and not here
today that have been supporting the attempts to increase the access to high-quality,
low-price essential medicines. I do strongly believe that together we shall
survive. Thank you, Mr. President.
President Clinton: Give them all a hand. I would also like
to recognize and thank all of the people who are here who work on our AIDS initiative
who do all of the work that makes these events possible. I thank you so much.
Now, are there any questions?
Speaker: As I’m sure you know, and as the prime minister
is intimately acquainted with, there is a lot of conflict over these second-line
drugs in middle-income countries, particularly … [inaudible]. Are you
hopeful, and I’m interested in hearing from both you and the Thai minister,
that this will strengthen the hands of middle-income countries about issuing
licenses, and will they be needed to access these lower prices? And I guess
my second question is: The U.S. has been negotiating these free trade agreements
with Colombia and Thailand with the TRIPS-plus portion in them. If those were
adopted, would it make it more difficult to access those prices that you’ve
negotiated?
President Clinton: Well, I will let the minister speak, the
Thai minister. But let me first say, I strongly support the position of the
governments of Thailand and Brazil and their decision after futile negotiations
to break these patents. I mean, this is not rocket science. When we negotiated
the TRIPS agreement in the first place, the whole spirit of it was that no one
should die because of the patent process. No country has been more generous
to its pharmaceutical companies than the United States. This is the only country
in the world where you can get a patent and return it for absolutely no price
restraint whatsoever. Fifty-eight percent of the new drugs we have approved
in our market were developed not by the pharmaceutical companies, but by taxpayer
funds through the National Institute of Health or through grants to university
research programs, and then licensed back to the companies.
Now, I’m glad we have these companies headquartered in our country, and
as you heard from Ambassador Levitte, I am very grateful for the participation
in this announcement of many of the traditional pharmaceutical companies. We
try whenever we can to work with them. But Abbott has been almost alone in its
hard-line position here over what I consider to be a life-or-death matter; so
I support them. Now, it is my understanding that the TRIPS-plus language would
permit the middle-income countries to do what is being done by Brazil and Thailand.
If I am wrong, I stand to be corrected, because I’m not in government
anymore, and I haven’t actually read it. But that’s my understanding.
Mr. Minister, would you like to address that?
Dr. Mongkol: In Thailand, we have to be responsible for the
people under the National Health Security Act. We have to provide health services
to the people free of charge. There are more than 48 million people under our
responsibility. Even though the government increased the budget more than 15
percent on average per year, last year the health sector increased by more than
10,000 patients the second largest after the educational sectors.
But it’s not enough for our people. Some very high-priced medicine is
not accessible for our people. We have to do something. We can’t let our
people die without any treatment or any dignity as human beings; so we try our
best. After difficulty with the drug company for more than two years, we had
to do the compulsory licensing to save our people’s lives. I tried to
ask them 100 times, please let me do something for the people, especially for
the people when they cannot get any response after asking for it for more than
two years. So lastly, to save the people, we need compulsory licensing.
President Clinton: Let me just make one other comment about
this. It’s not as if the Thais and the Brazilians didn’t negotiate
and try to work this out. But for those of you in the press who may not follow
this as closely as Ms. Dugger does, let me just review the facts here. Just
a couple of years ago, when our Foundation got into the pediatric medicine field,
there were 500,000 kids a year dying of AIDS. There were 25,000 children getting
medicine; 15,000 of them were in Thailand and Brazil because they were middle-income
countries, and these countries had a passionate commitment to keeping these
kids alive. In the whole rest of the world, you had 10,000 kids getting medicine:
China, India, all of Africa, all of the Caribbean, everywhere; 10,000 kids with
500,000 dying. By contrast, we had by that time gotten up to roughly one in
six people that needed the medicine to stay alive who were adults.
So we actually went out and raised the money from private donors to double
the number from 10- to 20,000 in the first year. It sounded great. It was a
surefire applause line to say: “We doubled the number of children on treatment
in a year.” Everybody would clap.
And then I’d say, “Why are you clapping? We are at 20,000 people
with 500,000 dying.” This is a big deal. I don’t think it’s
a close question. It’s not just Brazil and Thailand. It’s the effort
to get these prices down and make them widely available so that huge numbers
of children beyond their borders can live. It is truly, as the minister said,
a life-or-death issue.
Speaker: One thing you didn’t mention was PEPFAR.
President Clinton: We work with PEPFAR and all of the countries
where our efforts overlap. Let me just explain how I think this works and perhaps
one of the ministers would like to comment. We sell the medicine in 66 countries
but our Foundation has actual health care operations in 25 countries. In those
countries where we operate, if PEPFAR is also present, we work with them. In
the countries where we just sell medicine, the position that President Bush
took was to present our generic drugs to the FDA, allow the companies to present
them; and if our local FDA approved them, then PEPFAR funds could be used to
buy them in the countries in which PEPFAR is active.
Now, our experience is that that commitment is somewhat uneven, but where it’s
carried out, we’re only too happy to have those funds be used to buy the
least expensive drugs in the world, because they save more money. Every place
we work with them, we do, and there are many places where we do. Anything else?
Speaker: Can you comment on the price -- [inaudible].
President Clinton: The main problem we have with the AIDS
crisis in America is that the infections are going up in certain selected communities,
primarily among minority females who are primarily infected by their male partners,
many of whom themselves became infected either because of drug addiction or
because of incarceration. We need to make sure that we can identify in every
community these trends when they come up, and then step up our prevention and
testing programs. We have the treatment in place if we can do this. Now, there
are one or two places in America where we have had some treatment problems,
which is why Congress had that big debate, which was not so good for New York,
to reallocate some of the funds because of the deficit and the other competing
demands and Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere. They didn’t want to increase
the overall amount of money we were spending on medicine in the United States.
The population of increasing infections was found in urban areas all across
the country, including in the south, where we showed some pretty alarming spikes
for the first time.
So the Congress wanted to reallocate the existing funds rather than just spend
a lot more. But since we still have such a big problem in New York and California,
some of the states that would have lost money fought it; not because we didn’t
want more money to go to those poor folk, but because we thought we ought to
raise the ceiling of what was being spent.
But the main thing is whenever people think a problem is over and it’s
not, you’re always going to have backsliding. This is not just true in
AIDS, but in any health issue and in any other kind of social problem. Whenever
people think a problem is over and it’s not, then we stop paying attention
and we take our eye off the ball. We lessen our prevention efforts, we lessen
our education efforts, we lessen our testing efforts, and you get these kinds
of problems. Plus, we have more people spending longer times in prison. When
they come out, they are more likely to be infected, and they are quite likely
not to know it. We also need to be doing more work within the prisons on this.
We forget sometimes, we Americans, that 90 percent of the people who are incarcerated
are going to get out. We don’t spend enough time keeping them educated
and getting them trained and getting them jobs when they get out and getting
them healthy, and that’s a big problem, too.
Speaker: Are other countries joining, and why isn’t
the United States a member?
President Clinton: Well, I think the United States is not
a member because it contributes its per capita allocation -- which is about
30 percent -- to maybe a third to the Global Fund on AIDS, TB, and Malaria;
and because the PEPFAR fund is at $3 billion a year and a lot of that money
does go to medicine. I think about 55 percent goes to medicine -- is that right,
everybody? I think about 55 percent of the PEPFAR money.
Now, that money doesn’t go as far as ours does, because they spend a
lot more than we do on most of their medicines. Perhaps Ambassador Levitte could
tell us, but there are 19 countries now along with France participating. France
is by far the biggest donor because they impose a small fee on all domestic
and intra-European flights for coach, and a slightly bigger one for first class
and business class. Then they impose a slightly bigger fee and the small fee
for international coach flights, and then about 40 euros for flying first class
internationally. They have raised the bulk of this money.
Our early partners, as I remember, were Chile, Brazil, Norway, and maybe South
Korea. But now there are 19 other countries. I do not know how many of them
have the airline levy. But I think that any other country that wants to participate
in this knows that we have low overheard, high impact. The money put into this
is just for the medicine, although it’s not just AIDS. They also buy medications
and treatment for TB and malaria.
This has enormous potential because it’s like a special purpose tax.
Every time a French citizen or someone in France flying out of France buys an
airline ticket, they know that 100 percent of this money is going to save lives.
How many countries do the airline tax like that?
Ambassador Levitte: You said it, Mr. President -- 19.
President Clinton: But some have given you money that doesn’t
come from the airline tax?
Ambassador Levitte: Yeah, the U.K., for instance, is contributing
to UNITAID without taxes.
President Clinton: The United Kingdom, for example, doesn’t
have the tax. They just give them an allocation every year. But I hope there
will be more countries participating in this. The one thing you can’t
fault the Bush Administration for is not spending money on this. The reason
they didn’t contribute to UNITAID is they already give about somewhere
between 30 and 33 percent of the Global Fund money and the PEPFAR money on top
of that. Anything else?
Speaker: I wanted to follow up with the Thai minister. Has
Abbott continued to insist on withdrawing the application for those other medicines
because of the compulsory license on Kaletra? And what impact do you think this
announcement today may have on that process?
Dr. Mongkol: Abbott Laboratories and the team of the Thai
Ministry of Public Health right now are in the process of negotiation. I think
that we can meet the certain agreements not later than next month.
President Clinton: Do you have a question?
Speaker: I have a question for Mr. Prasad. I just wanted to
know if he can tell us a little bit more about how you are going to use lower
prices -- [inaudible]? For production process?
President Clinton: Did you hear the question?
Mr. Prasad: Yes.
President Clinton: His hearing is better than mine.
Mr. Prasad: It’s a collaborative approach with the Clinton
Foundation. It’s very easy to speak to the reduction of the prices, but
the effort has [inaudible] with the Clinton Foundation team. They have not only
helped us in sourcing very effective antiretrovirals, which is very scarce to
get for these products, but they have also helped sometimes in reducing the
cost in the chemical process. Finally, the Foundation could help us actually
to get the volumes that could dilute the cost. It’s a combination of all
these three efforts that has really brought down the cost.
President Clinton: Before we go, I just want to say one other
thing to our friend from Kenya here. If the rest of the world doubts whether
the right sort of assistance can make a difference in people’s lives,
let me remind you of what’s happened in Kenya in just the last couple
of years. They, as you heard, increased the number of children getting pediatric
AIDS medicine by sixfold and the number of adults by fourfold. While they were
doing this, they dropped the school fees and increased school enrollment by
two million children. Miracles are going on there. They are doing a good job
with the aid they have been given, and if we give them more, they will do a
good job with that -- and they are not alone.
When the people really want to give up on the poor countries in Africa or East
Asia or Latin America, tell them the numbers in Kenya. I’ve visited with
some of those children as well as some adults who went back to school. It’s
an amazing story. Either one of these revolutions would be significant in and
of itself. That a country can come so far, so fast, on both education and health
care is a testament to how much good things like the French airline tax can
do. I’m glad that we can help to make the money go a little further. Thank
you very much. Have a good day.
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