Speech: Remarks at the Tanenbaum Center for Interreligious Understanding
June 15, 2006
New York, NY
Thank you. It’s beautiful. Thank you very much. For those of you who
cannot see it, this is basically a statement of a golden rule as manifested
in all the faiths here listed, and I thank you very much. I will treasure this
and honor it.
Georgette, thank you very much for your work, your commitment, and for giving
me the opportunity to give the Tanenbaum Lecture. I thank Mayor Dinkins and
by many other friends for coming here. My next-door neighbors, the San Filippos,
Reverend Butts, other clergy members, thank you so much. I’m also delighted
to be here with Judy Woodruff, for whom I have enormous admiration and who has
been interested in this whole question of faith and its impact on the lives
of public people and public policy for many years now.
When I was President, I had a consuming interest in the intersection of religion
and politics, what it meant in America and what it might mean to the rest of
the world, and whether the First Amendment required us to be secular in the
sense of being anti-religious or to be secular in the sense of being open to
the freedom of people in as many spaces as possible, to express their faith
and the search for common ground. We had all these practical problems, like
public schools where people believed that student religious groups couldn’t
meet on the school grounds, even after school hours because it would be a violation
of the First Amendment. So I had the Attorney General and the Secretary of Education
put out a booklet, which clearly delineated what could and couldn’t be
done, in an attempt to bring people together. And it not only ended several
lawsuits, but it helped to promote a continuing dialogue in an atmosphere of
mutual respect.
When we were trying to reach out to China, I asked Rabbi Arthur Schneier; Don
Argue, who was then the head of the Association of Evangelicals; and the then-Bishop
of Newark (now the Catholic Cardinal of Washington, DC) Theodore McCarrick to
go to China and start a dialogue on religious liberty and what the state should
and should not do in dealing with people of faith.
One of the most touching things that happened to me was near the end of my
term as President, a law professor now at Virginia, named Rod Smith, who’s
one of America’s premiere experts on the freedom of religion in the First
Amendment said that he believed that our administration had done more to promote
religious liberty than any since James Madison. I loved that and I was quite
sure it would come as a great surprise to Reverend Falwell, Reverend Dobson,
Reverend Robertson, the head of my own Southern Baptist Convention and others
who thought I was always just one step away from hell.
We’re laughing about this, but more than 80% of the world’s population
self-identify as religious people. For billions of people, the most important
community ties are those of faith and family not nation or politics; and yet
we know that while faith is personal and tends to be universal, religion is
social and tends to the particular, and therefore, when anybody’s faith
is manifested in a particular religious organization, it is vulnerable to the
compromising, even polluting influence, of politics. No citizen who is religious
can be a citizen and politically active without being influenced by his or her
faith. But when we tend to say that politics and religion are the same and those
who don’t agree are less human than we are, we get in real trouble and
we become vulnerable to the crass manipulation of people who have neither political
nor religious convictions, apart from wanting to maximize their power.
I have seen unbelievably good and horrible things done in the name of faith
in my lifetime and in my presidency. You made clear, by highlighting the work
of two courageous Nigerians, Iman Asaf and Pastor Wuye, two men who were sworn
enemies at war, yet came to work for peace. How much good thing can be done?
I guess the main thing I want to say is that for people in America who are a
part of my political tradition, our great sin has often been ignoring religion
or denying its power or refusing to engage it when it seemed hostile to us.
For people who have built a political base on the so-called Christian right
and its allies, their great sin has been believing they were in full possession
of the truth and could use it to flail away at those who respectfully disagree.
But anybody who ignores the power of faith in its role in the world can neither
hope to reverse the problems or find solutions for all the things that divide
us.
It is perfectly clear that there is something going on in the community of
faith throughout the world, but I think, on balance, it is positive. I think
that if you look at, for example, I’d like to say some nice things about
the Christian Evangelicals, very few of whom voted for me. First, they were
instrumental in the biggest debt relief initiative in history, in my last year
as President because they believed in the admonition of the scripture to alleviate
the burdens of the poor. And we had this massive debt relief initiative in 2000
that went to poor countries if they spent all the money on education, or healthcare,
or development. Then not so long ago, 18 Evangelical leaders took out a full-page
ad in The New York Times asking for the government to take more vigorous action
on climate change. One of the reasons this was important goes way beyond the
environment, which is that they were accommodating their political agenda to
evidence in the real world, as opposed to saying that ideology must always triumph
evidence.
So I think there is an opportunity here, both within the United States and
throughout the world to have the mission of the Tanenbaum Center to be carried
forward.
Last year, I convened in September, the first Clinton Global Initiative at
the opening of the United Nations and we brought in all kinds of governmental,
non-governmental organizations, philanthropies, non-governmental groups from
developing countries and also business and religious executives to talk about
what the world could do to alleviate extreme poverty; to improve governance
in poor countries; to deal with the challenge of climate change in a way that
promoted growth, instead of wrecked it; and finally, to overcome our profound
religious differences. And we told everybody not to come unless they were prepared
to make specific commitments. I didn’t know if anybody would show up,
really. I said, the people would call me and say, “What’s the difference
in what you’re doing and what they did at Davos?” I said, “Well,
mine is cheaper, shorter. You don’t get to ski. There are only four things
being discussed; and before you leave, you’ve got to do something in one
of these four areas. If you don’t, you can’t come back next year.
Otherwise, it’s about the same.” And I didn’t know what would
happen.
Hundreds and hundreds of people made commitments in two days worth $2 1/2 billion
dollars. And they’re busily implementing them, but that understates the
true value of what was done. Because, for example, the religious reconciliation,
the money’s not as important as the human contacts. Queen Rania established
a partnership between Jordan and the Interfaith Youth Core by Eboo Patel out
of Chicago, deciding on the spot to bring people between the two countries together,
to cross a great divide. A program called Playing for Peace decided that if
Muslims and Jews in the Middle East played basketball, they might be Israelis
and Palestinians, but they might find common ground.
Nestle in Nigeria, in Search for a Common Ground, is developing a reality TV
show to promote religious reconciliation in Nigeria. This, by the way, is really
exciting. I might like to see one of these in America. Think about what it could
be. If people actually could turn on television and see real people with whom
they could identify actually having serious conversations about both their religious
convictions and how they do or don’t translate into their daily lives.
I think it’s very exciting. And one of my favorite groups, Vital Voices,
which Hillary has done a lot to help spread throughout the world, began in Northern
Ireland as a dialogue between Catholic and Protestant women. And those women
played a major, major role in the ultimate success of the Irish peace process.
They are now working with Israeli and Palestinian women to try to save conflict
revolution strategies there. They have worked in the Balkans. They have worked
in Africa. I have done everything I could to support them, but it has been fascinating
to me to see.
Where is all this going? Well, first of all, those of you who support this
Center should be encouraged that almost no one now is denying the role of faith
in our public life and the need to deal with it in a positive, rather than destructive
way. Madeleine Albright has just written an astonishing book. I don’t
know if you’ve seen it, acknowledging that the professional diplomatic
core in the United States, through both Republican and Democratic administrations
alike, tended to downplay religion and not want to have religious people involved
in the resolution of political issues. And she has concluded that it was an
error because if you can reach across the religious divide in countries in regions
where people’s religious identity is stronger than any other identity,
you can actually accelerate the process of peace and reconciliation. That brief
summary doesn’t do justice to her marvelous new book, but the point is
we have a growing sense that we can’t, any of us, divide up into little
bitty pieces what we believe and who we are.
On the other hand, it seems to me that there are some fundamental rules that
have to be brought to bear. I’ve seen a lot of religious conflict. Everyone
always immediately goes to the Middle East, but let me remind you, that the
largest number of people killed in the last 30 years by terrorist incidents
have been in Sri Lanka, by the minority Hindu Tamil Tigers against the majority
Buddhists in Belize, with tiny groups of Muslims and Christians, mostly Catholics.
When I agreed first with former President Bush to work to raise money in the
tsunami areas and then to take over the UN job, by the time I went to Sri Lanka
the second time, I said, “Look. This is nuts. We’re not going to
repair this country unless we do the Northern part where the Tamils live.”
And a lot of the Muslims were feeling shut out. I said, “We have got to
go to the people where they are. I don’t care how dangerous it is.”
I said, “They’re not going to do anything to me. We’ll be
fine. If they did, it would make millions of people happy.” But anyway,
we’re just going to go.
So I went up to sort of like the Northeastern Coastal town, where I could sit
and meet with the Buddhists in the Belize majority; the Tamils; the Hindus;
the Muslims; and a tiny minority of Christians. Guess where we met? In the courtyard
of the local Catholic school, and they were l% of the people, but everybody
felt safe here. They felt not discriminated against and imbalanced there. And
they had a thoroughly secular or practical conversation about what we could
do in an atmosphere of real mutual respect. And I just mentioned this because
I think it’s important not to see the Middle East as all that unique,
even though virtually all the fanatics are extra regional terror groups, are
Muslim today.
Don’t forget what has happened in Sri Lanka. Don’t forget the terrible
things that have been done by the Hindus and the Muslims to each other in Western
India in their fights. And what a violation it is of everything Gandhi lived
for. Don’t forget that Gandhi was murdered by a young Hindu who thought
he was a bad Hindu because he wanted India for people of all faiths. Don’t
forget that Rabin was murdered a young Israeli Jew who thought he was a bad
Jew and a bad Israeli because he wanted to give up the West Bank in return for
peace and a decent future for Palestinian as well as Israeli children. Don’t
forget that Anwar Sadat was murdered by a group of his fellow Muslims because
they thought he was a bad Muslim because he made a peace with Israel. It is
very important to realize that none of us come to this with clean hands and
that all religions are vulnerable to a certain kind of political pollution and
that very often, if you take the Balkans, for example, where I had a lot of
personal experience with Slobodan Milosevic, we said that was an ethnic conflict
or a religious conflict between the Orthodox Serbs and the Muslim Bosnians and
the Catholic Croatians, but the truth is that from a biological point of view
there was really no ethnic difference. That just happened to be the place, Sarajevo,
where the Eastern Empire and the Holy Roman Empire in the west and the Ottoman
Empire from the south met and stopped each other’s respective advances.
And even the faith they adopted had more to do with the political control of
the area than any indigenous efforts. And Milosevic was a central banker who
I promise you was not a particularly religious man and he used faith to blind
people to get power and justify killing, which brings me to the last point I
really want to make.
I give a lot of talks now around the world and around America and I always
tell people that whatever their politics, whatever their faith, if they truly
want to understand and feel comfortable in this crazy new world we’re
living in, they have to be able to ask and answer for themselves four simple
questions: “What is the fundamental nature of the modern world? How would
I like to change it? What steps are necessary to make those changes? And who’s
supposed to do it? And particularly, what can I do?” The fundamental nature
of the modern world is interdependence, which is good for most Americans, but
unequal and unsustainable, because half the world’s people live on less
than $2.00 a day, and because we share the common threats of terrors, weapons
of mass destruction, the possible spread of disease, climate change, and oil
depletion. How would you like it to change? I would like to live in integrated
communities, where we share values, responsibilities and opportunities, locally,
nationally, and globally.
How do you do that? You have to have a security policy, a policy to make more
partners and fewer terrorists, because you can’t kill, jail, or occupy
all your enemies and it must be a policy for home improvement, because unless
we’re getting better in America, we can’t sustain support for our
being the world’s leading force for peace and freedom and prosperity and
reconciliation. And who’s supposed to do it? The government is supposed
to do some of it, but so are we. Groups like yours and my foundation, we can
do things more effectively, less expensively, and on a human level that can’t
necessarily be done by government and it’s wrong for us to wait.
I give this little profile and I can see that when I say, “We want to
build integrated communities, where we have shared responsibilities, shared
opportunities and shared values,” the average sensible person says, “Okay;
I can imagine how we could do a better job of having shared opportunities. I
can certainly see how in a successful community everybody’s got to bear
some responsibility for the success as a whole. But Bill Clinton has lost his
mind since he left the White House. I mean, how could anybody be naïve
enough to look at what has happened in the Middle East, look at what has happened
in Sri Lanka, look at what’s happening all over the world and believe
that with all the religious and ethnic and racial and other diversity in the
world we could ever have communities encompassing all these people who have
shared values, while we’re going in reverse?”
But I think we can. I think we can have values that are shared, if they’re
sufficiently embracing and universal and don’t ask anybody to give up
their ability to practice their faith without turning their religion into a
political weapon. Every person has dignity and deserves a chance in life. Every
person has a responsible role to play. Competition is fine, but we do better
when we cooperate. Our differences are important; they make life more interesting;
they aid the search for truth, but our common humanity matters more.
Now, what are the barriers to the embrace of those values? What are the barriers
to the embrace of the golden rule? What is the central intellectual heresy in
every faith that values death over life and allows really decent people of profound
faith to be turned into salivating, unthinking, storming killers of those who
are different? It’s the same in every faith. What it is? Is it the belief
in the truth that there is such a thing as absolute truth, as opposed to just
everything’s relative? No, it is not. That’s not the problem. Every
single religion believes in the existence of Truth, right? They may define it
in different ways, but every single faith believes there is such a thing as
Truth. The heresy is not in the belief for the truth. The heresy is in believing
that in this lifetime an imperfect human being can be in full possession of
that truth, as opposed to on a continuous journey toward it. And that once having
come into a full possession of the truth, you can turn it into a political program,
which is fully true. Because if you believe those two things, then anybody who
disagrees with you is less than human and doesn’t deserve to go on.
The most extreme example of that in the current political environment is the
man who was just killed in Iraq, Mr. Zarqawi. I saw his handiwork when Hillary
and Chelsea and I went to Israel for the 10th anniversary of Yitzhak Rabin’s
death, and then we went to Jordan where his people had blown up two hotels.
And all the victims were Muslims. They actually sent a man and his wife in to
a hotel, a big hotel ballroom to kill everybody at a wedding reception. And
I walked around, I’ll never forget it as long as I live, Hillary and Chelsea
and I walking around on the broken glass in the shattered remains of these little
plastic beveled chandeliers and the little paper decorated napkins for the wedding
reception that all of you have been part of. How many times have we all been
to one of those? And we were just crunching around on it.
And then we went to the hospital. I saw a beautiful 4-year-old boy who hadn’t
uttered a word since he’d gotten a piece of metal in his head. I saw a
doctor holding hands with this beautiful little 4-month-old infant boy and I
learned that he was the boy’s father. He was caring for his own son because
on the faithful night he was working in the hospital, so his wife and her parents
took their infant baby to the wedding reception and they were all killed. So
he was left alone not only to care for, but to raise his own son, all in the
name of Zarqawi jihadist religious faith. His was the ultimately absurd position,
so extreme that I think even Mr. bin Laden was happy when he was off-ed because
now he can use him as a martyr. But consider what Zarqawi’s position was.
This is the ultimate absurdity. He said, “I am a Sunni and I think bin
Laden is all wrong trying to kill all the Americans and Europeans. First we
must purge our backyard of the enemy, the near enemy.” And who were the
near enemies? The Israelis. All Shiite Muslims and any Sunni Muslims who didn’t
agree with his interpretation and his politics. He basically said, “Join
me and kill the world.” That is an absurd extreme, but it shows you the
intellectual heresy that creeps into any faith if in any way you say, “I
believe my faith best embodies the Truth.” Fine, but then if you say,
“I have now fully understood and grasped and am in possession of that
truth and therefore I could turn it into a political program that is absolutely
true and therefore if you don’t buy it, you’re less than human and
I can kill you without sin,” that is the problem.
All we have to do is to get along together, to work together, to follow the
golden rule, is to realize that all of these rules apply to all people and not
just our crowd. If you had fundamentalists here from any faith, they would come
up here and say that this was fine, but they’re referring to our crowd.
So do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Love your neighbor as
yourself. A lot of Christian fundamentalists would say yes. My neighbor is a
fellow Christian. My neighbor reads the New Testament the same way I do. Never
mind that I have to have rather strained interpretations of just a handful of
verses to get to my politics and there are over 500 admonitions in the New Testament
to take care of the poor. Leave me alone. I know what I’m doing.
Now I’m saying, the same thing could be applied to every other religion,
which basically says all these golden rules in all their beautiful manifestations
did not apply to the other. If you go back through all of human history, since
people first stood up on the Africa Savanna, more or less 130,000 years ago,
and formed themselves into families, and then into clans, and moved out of caves
and moved to larger villages. If you think about it, the main drama of human
history has been coming to terms with the other, and then finding out they weren’t
so “other” after all. So I ask you all to remember that.
It’s a good thing to have faith. It’s a great thing to be religious,
but religion is, by definition, a particular social institution and faith is,
by definition, a personal and universal quest. Therefore religion may embrace
the idea of truth but can never be in full possession of it, much less turn
it into a political program. That’s why what the Tanenbaum Center does
is important and that’s why I spend a fair amount of time of whatever
time I’ve got left on this earth, trying to understand that fundamental
insight. Once you accept that, we can love each other’s faiths and we
can love each other. Thank you and God bless you.
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